12 December 2013
NSA Split on Amnesty for Snowden
NSA leaders split on giving amnesty to Snowden
ByJohn Miller CBS News December 12, 2013, 7: 29 PM
CBS News learned Thursday that the information National Security Agency leaker
Edward Snowden has revealed so far is just a fraction of what he has. In
fact, he has so much, some think it is worth giving him amnesty to get it
Rick Leggett is the man who was put in charge of the Snowden leak task force
by Gen. Keith Alexander, who heads the NSA. The task force's job is to prevent
another leak like this one from happening again. They're also trying to figure
out how much damage the Snowden leaks have done, and how much damage they
could still do.
Snowden, who is believed to still have access to 1.5 million classified documents
he has not leaked, has been granted temporary asylum in Moscow, which leaves
the U.S. with few options.
JOHN MILLER: He's already said, "If I got amnesty, I would come back." Given
the potential damage to national security, what would your thought on making
a deal be?
RICK LEGGETT: So, my personal view is, yes, it's worth having a conversation
about. I would need assurances that the remainder of the data could be secured,
and my bar for those assurances would be very high. It would be more than
just an assertion on his part.
MILLER: Is that a unanimous feeling?
LEGGETT: It's not unanimous.
Among those who think making a deal is a bad idea is Leggett's boss, Gen.
GEN. KEITH ALEXANDER: This is analogous to a hostage-taker taking 50 people
hostage, shooting 10 and then say, "If you give me full amnesty, I'll let
the other 40 go." What do you do?
MILLER: It's a dilemma.
GEN. ALEXANDER: It is.
MILLER: Do you have a pick?
GEN. ALEXANDER: I do. I think people have to be held accountable for their
Because what we don't want is the next person to do the same
thing, race off to Hong Kong and to Moscow with another set of data, knowing
they can strike the same deal.
We asked Gen. Alexander, Leggett and former NSA Director Michael Hayden why
the Russians would give Snowden amnesty if they already have Snowden's
information, and they said they would be sadly disappointed in the intelligence
services if they hadn't gotten that material.
The question is, for damage control, what's the difference between a couple
of foreign governments having it -- that's bad -- or having it out there
in the newspapers or across many other governments?
You can see more of this story Sunday on "60 Minutes."